Petuskeemid
Postitatud: 19 Mär 2008, 15:32
Vaatan autosid siit ja sealt. Nii kodumaa pinnalt kui ka kaugemalt eemalt. Ikka ja jälle torkavad just EU lõunaosariikides silma kummalised pakkumised. Põhiliselt on tegu 2000-2007 aasta autodega, mille eest küsitakse naeruväärsed summad.
- BMW 318 2004a 4000EURi
- BMW 325 2001a 3800EURi
kõike ei hakka siia nüüd loopima, aga noo ütleme nii et näiteid on palju... Muideks - kelle pettumuseks, rõõmustuseks - ka meie automüüjate piiblis mobile.de-s
Mõtlesin mis ma mõtlesin, otsustasin siiski lõpuks torkida neid ning välja selgitada nende lõpliku olemuse. Mis selle taga peitub ning kuidas seda kõike juhitakse.
Skeem näeb lihtsale inimesele, nagu ka mulle, välja järgmine
- saadad meili stiilis "hellõu, väga bro masin, räägi mulle lähemalt/miks hind selline/kus asub jne jne"
- kavalamatel on oskuslikult välja koolitatud ka auto-vastaja, mis saadab sulle süütu kirjakese tagasi juba loetud minutite pärast (kolmele sama inimese poolt pakutud autole sain kolm identse sisuga kirja tagasi). Üldjuhul kirjutatakse ikka kui vaimustavalt hea auto, ent kui kahju tal sellest loobuda on.
NÄIDE:
/---/It was never been involved in accidents.It has no scratches or something else.I am the first owner of the car.This is my last price and the car it's not in leasing so you have to pay only this price and nothing more..I have all the papers of the car and the service book as well.Everything is OK with the car. If you are interested please write me an e-mail.
Thank's
Maggio Aurizio
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- noo okei... ilus asi jah. See oli üks näide autovastajast. Kirjutame siis seekord mitte tühja meilboksi vaid siis nii, et saaksime inimeselt ikka järelkaja, mis värk on.
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Hello Maggio Aurizio,
the car looks fine from the pictures. But I'd still like to see it myself and check all the paperwork and documentary. Of course you realize, the car is gonna be exported. In order to export it I need transit/export reg. numbers for the car and a temporary EU insurance (a 14 days).
Where exactly is the vehicle situated?
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- Kõik loogiline... nii ja saame peagi vastuse, mis esmapilgul ei äratagi kahtlust ikka veel...
/---/Hello,
Now if you are intrested to buy it let me know how do you want to recive the car.
You have 3 options to buy this car :
1) I will come personaly with the car in your country BUT i will need a warranty that i will not come for nothing.
2) I can send you the car with a shipping company that will bring you the car in your home address in maximum 2-3 bussines days.The shipping taxes i will pay for it so all you have to pay is the car price and nothing more.We will use
for this so we can have a safe deal and your money and my car can be safe.
3) You can come and pick up the car from Brescia/Italy.
Let me know.
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- Nii... milline inimene suvatseb tasuta sõitma ühest EU otsast teise ilma igasuguse tasuta? Milline inimene on nõus maksma tasuta transportimise eest ühest EU otsast teise?
- Nüüd! ühe skeemi ots on nimelt järgmises sm. Mustafa Ali kirjas. Lugege tähelepanelikult ja rahulikult läbi. Kõik kes seda skeemi kasutavad jõuavad lõpuks ikka selleni välja.
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I am free and can come from you to sell the car, however since want to be secure that you are serious, it thought to conclude in serious and transparent manner. I believe it is just that you make see myself than are serious and that have the money to buy my first car that I come to your address in Estonia. I don't want any money advance because I believe that is just without to have monitored the car. The guarantee will be a transfer of money with Western Union Money Transfer in which you are the sender and the receiver will be the yours best friend (or seeming). You should do a transfer of euro 700, equal to 20% of the price of the car included the expenditures, to the yours best friend (or seeming) but in Italy, like he is in Italy . After that you will have done that will send me for email the scanning of the receipt of the transfer.. After that I will have received it and I will have monitored on the site that it is true i will confirms and you withdraw the money back.. I take the car and come to yours address in Estonia to meet you. Together we will monitor that the car at the police post in your city and ifter that i will transfer the documents into your name. You will pay me the sum reached an agreement on except for the expenditures that supported for the transfer with Western Union Money Transfer. The total price to pay and' of euro 3.450 . And 'important for me than you do not lose nothing for the transfer that shows that you have the money to buy the car, for this the cost I am at load mine.
To summarize:
1. You do the transfer, are the sender.
2. The yours better friend and' the receiver, but should not withdraw the money; you will withdraw it from where did the deposit.
3. I monitor on the site that the transfer and' real and send you email of confirmation to withdraw the money back.
4. You go where did the deposit and withdraw yourself the money. Preserve the receipt for to make me see than pays you had. I will remove them from the price of the car.
5. Excuse me if I am so precauto in the business but on internet there is too frauds and little persons series. I thought about this system so I am secure that you have the money to buy the car and you not risks nothing perche' the money send them a person that alone you know (even if then not withdraw them). I guarantee that the description of my car introduced on the site corresponds to truth and that have not nothing to hide for how much pertains this sale.
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- Võtkem siinkohal kõne Western Union Eesti esindustega. Sellega tegeleb meil ei keegi muu kui Eesti Post. Nendepoolne vastus on ühene - ÄRGE MITTE MINGIL JUHUL VÕTKE OSA SELLEST PETTUSEST! Nimelt piisab sellistes arengumaades väga vähesest, et "feikida" dokumente ning selle abil sinu saadetud raha välja võtta.
Näide. Mart jääbki sinisilmselt seda uskuma. Saadab papi naine Marile. Asukohamaaks panebki Brescia, Itaalia. Saab Western Unionist tõendi, et makse tehtud. Skännib masinasse ning saadabki Mustafa Alile. Ali vaatab - ahah Mari on saaja. Haarab oma naise kaasa, vehib talle käbe võltsdokumendid, ronib sellesse osakonda, kus Mardi raha vedeleb omanikuta ning laseb välja võtta.
Küsimusele "kui paljud juba sedasi oma raha on kaotanud", vastas tädi Eesti Posti teises toru otsas: "Oeh... kahjuks iga nädal kümned! Edasi läheb asi küll politseisse, ent jah..."
See on vaid üks näidis kirjavahetus. Viimastel päevadel on sääraseid "kudumeid" mul inboxis kümnete viisi. Kõigil täpselt sama viis raha ülekanneteks. Kusjuures - lausa nagu vihastatakse, kui sa lubad, et ma tulen ise kohale ja sularahaga arveldan vaid
Hetkel on käimas ka üks teine analoogne variant, mis lubab saata auto sinuni. Hetkel kui saadetakse sulle "Tracking number" et auto on teele suunatud, tuleks tellijal teha ülekanne jällegi mustafa-ali nimelisele. Hetkel ma nokin selle skeemi kallal. Kui targemaks saan, postitan.
PS. Lisan mõne aja pärast ka ühe kõige haledamalt võltsitud tehnopassi.
- BMW 318 2004a 4000EURi
- BMW 325 2001a 3800EURi
kõike ei hakka siia nüüd loopima, aga noo ütleme nii et näiteid on palju... Muideks - kelle pettumuseks, rõõmustuseks - ka meie automüüjate piiblis mobile.de-s
Mõtlesin mis ma mõtlesin, otsustasin siiski lõpuks torkida neid ning välja selgitada nende lõpliku olemuse. Mis selle taga peitub ning kuidas seda kõike juhitakse.
Skeem näeb lihtsale inimesele, nagu ka mulle, välja järgmine
- saadad meili stiilis "hellõu, väga bro masin, räägi mulle lähemalt/miks hind selline/kus asub jne jne"
- kavalamatel on oskuslikult välja koolitatud ka auto-vastaja, mis saadab sulle süütu kirjakese tagasi juba loetud minutite pärast (kolmele sama inimese poolt pakutud autole sain kolm identse sisuga kirja tagasi). Üldjuhul kirjutatakse ikka kui vaimustavalt hea auto, ent kui kahju tal sellest loobuda on.
NÄIDE:
/---/It was never been involved in accidents.It has no scratches or something else.I am the first owner of the car.This is my last price and the car it's not in leasing so you have to pay only this price and nothing more..I have all the papers of the car and the service book as well.Everything is OK with the car. If you are interested please write me an e-mail.
Thank's
Maggio Aurizio
/---/
- noo okei... ilus asi jah. See oli üks näide autovastajast. Kirjutame siis seekord mitte tühja meilboksi vaid siis nii, et saaksime inimeselt ikka järelkaja, mis värk on.
/---/
Hello Maggio Aurizio,
the car looks fine from the pictures. But I'd still like to see it myself and check all the paperwork and documentary. Of course you realize, the car is gonna be exported. In order to export it I need transit/export reg. numbers for the car and a temporary EU insurance (a 14 days).
Where exactly is the vehicle situated?
/---/
- Kõik loogiline... nii ja saame peagi vastuse, mis esmapilgul ei äratagi kahtlust ikka veel...
/---/Hello,
Now if you are intrested to buy it let me know how do you want to recive the car.
You have 3 options to buy this car :
1) I will come personaly with the car in your country BUT i will need a warranty that i will not come for nothing.
2) I can send you the car with a shipping company that will bring you the car in your home address in maximum 2-3 bussines days.The shipping taxes i will pay for it so all you have to pay is the car price and nothing more.We will use
for this so we can have a safe deal and your money and my car can be safe.
3) You can come and pick up the car from Brescia/Italy.
Let me know.
/---/
- Nii... milline inimene suvatseb tasuta sõitma ühest EU otsast teise ilma igasuguse tasuta? Milline inimene on nõus maksma tasuta transportimise eest ühest EU otsast teise?
- Nüüd! ühe skeemi ots on nimelt järgmises sm. Mustafa Ali kirjas. Lugege tähelepanelikult ja rahulikult läbi. Kõik kes seda skeemi kasutavad jõuavad lõpuks ikka selleni välja.
/---/
I am free and can come from you to sell the car, however since want to be secure that you are serious, it thought to conclude in serious and transparent manner. I believe it is just that you make see myself than are serious and that have the money to buy my first car that I come to your address in Estonia. I don't want any money advance because I believe that is just without to have monitored the car. The guarantee will be a transfer of money with Western Union Money Transfer in which you are the sender and the receiver will be the yours best friend (or seeming). You should do a transfer of euro 700, equal to 20% of the price of the car included the expenditures, to the yours best friend (or seeming) but in Italy, like he is in Italy . After that you will have done that will send me for email the scanning of the receipt of the transfer.. After that I will have received it and I will have monitored on the site that it is true i will confirms and you withdraw the money back.. I take the car and come to yours address in Estonia to meet you. Together we will monitor that the car at the police post in your city and ifter that i will transfer the documents into your name. You will pay me the sum reached an agreement on except for the expenditures that supported for the transfer with Western Union Money Transfer. The total price to pay and' of euro 3.450 . And 'important for me than you do not lose nothing for the transfer that shows that you have the money to buy the car, for this the cost I am at load mine.
To summarize:
1. You do the transfer, are the sender.
2. The yours better friend and' the receiver, but should not withdraw the money; you will withdraw it from where did the deposit.
3. I monitor on the site that the transfer and' real and send you email of confirmation to withdraw the money back.
4. You go where did the deposit and withdraw yourself the money. Preserve the receipt for to make me see than pays you had. I will remove them from the price of the car.
5. Excuse me if I am so precauto in the business but on internet there is too frauds and little persons series. I thought about this system so I am secure that you have the money to buy the car and you not risks nothing perche' the money send them a person that alone you know (even if then not withdraw them). I guarantee that the description of my car introduced on the site corresponds to truth and that have not nothing to hide for how much pertains this sale.
/---/
- Võtkem siinkohal kõne Western Union Eesti esindustega. Sellega tegeleb meil ei keegi muu kui Eesti Post. Nendepoolne vastus on ühene - ÄRGE MITTE MINGIL JUHUL VÕTKE OSA SELLEST PETTUSEST! Nimelt piisab sellistes arengumaades väga vähesest, et "feikida" dokumente ning selle abil sinu saadetud raha välja võtta.
Näide. Mart jääbki sinisilmselt seda uskuma. Saadab papi naine Marile. Asukohamaaks panebki Brescia, Itaalia. Saab Western Unionist tõendi, et makse tehtud. Skännib masinasse ning saadabki Mustafa Alile. Ali vaatab - ahah Mari on saaja. Haarab oma naise kaasa, vehib talle käbe võltsdokumendid, ronib sellesse osakonda, kus Mardi raha vedeleb omanikuta ning laseb välja võtta.
Küsimusele "kui paljud juba sedasi oma raha on kaotanud", vastas tädi Eesti Posti teises toru otsas: "Oeh... kahjuks iga nädal kümned! Edasi läheb asi küll politseisse, ent jah..."
See on vaid üks näidis kirjavahetus. Viimastel päevadel on sääraseid "kudumeid" mul inboxis kümnete viisi. Kõigil täpselt sama viis raha ülekanneteks. Kusjuures - lausa nagu vihastatakse, kui sa lubad, et ma tulen ise kohale ja sularahaga arveldan vaid
Hetkel on käimas ka üks teine analoogne variant, mis lubab saata auto sinuni. Hetkel kui saadetakse sulle "Tracking number" et auto on teele suunatud, tuleks tellijal teha ülekanne jällegi mustafa-ali nimelisele. Hetkel ma nokin selle skeemi kallal. Kui targemaks saan, postitan.
PS. Lisan mõne aja pärast ka ühe kõige haledamalt võltsitud tehnopassi.